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Jan Heirtzler ([personal profile] jan_andrea) wrote2008-11-05 09:43 am

CA prop 8

I'm really happy that Obama won... but completely and utterly disgusted that Prop Hate (8) passed in California.

Personally, I think all the people who voted "Yes" should have their state-sanctioned marriages dissolved. See how they like it when a simple majority says, "Fuck you, you can't get married because we think it's icky!"

I'm really appalled by this.

In all honesty, if you live in CA and you voted to support Prop 8? Please remove me from your friends list, because I don't want to be friends with anyone who can support that sort of repulsive use of a ballot initiative and still look themselves in the mirror in the morning. This is especially true if you voted for it against your own conscience. That is just fucking wrong. What is your conscience for, if not to tell you what's right and what's wrong? Blind obedience is worse than ignorance. If you can vote to take away someone else's rights, you're no friend of mine. Period. I can tolerate/sympathize with/understand a lot of things in a friend, but some things are just deal-breakers, and this is one of them.

ETA: This is a nice summation.
And this an even better one.

[identity profile] mix3d3m0ti0n5.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
you rock.

i think there was only one staunch non-obama person on my list. if she was the mccain party, I could see her being one of those that booed.

[identity profile] jan-andrea.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks :)

You know, I listened to his speech live, and I thought he was incredibly gracious... and was just totally embarrassed for him by those supporters. Then again, he and Palin spent the last 5 months telling those supporters that they should be scared, hurt, defensive, and otherwise provided them with booing fodder, so I can't be too surprised :(

[identity profile] mix3d3m0ti0n5.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
me, too. He was the McCain I've always respected, at that speech.

McCain about 10 years ago would have been a decent president. I've followed him for several years (I used to be directly involved a bit in politics - yeah, so of it is the nature of my job, but I'm talking prior to working for gov't. I was raised in a pretty active family - democrat in a very republican area. I had to promise to tony not to be all political, as he knew some of the workings I've done. Hey, I was raised to be very civically involved.

I was always more obama focused and have followed him since he was just a low guy in IL, but the Palin chick basically sealed the deal for me.