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Jan Heirtzler ([personal profile] jan_andrea) wrote2008-11-05 09:43 am

CA prop 8

I'm really happy that Obama won... but completely and utterly disgusted that Prop Hate (8) passed in California.

Personally, I think all the people who voted "Yes" should have their state-sanctioned marriages dissolved. See how they like it when a simple majority says, "Fuck you, you can't get married because we think it's icky!"

I'm really appalled by this.

In all honesty, if you live in CA and you voted to support Prop 8? Please remove me from your friends list, because I don't want to be friends with anyone who can support that sort of repulsive use of a ballot initiative and still look themselves in the mirror in the morning. This is especially true if you voted for it against your own conscience. That is just fucking wrong. What is your conscience for, if not to tell you what's right and what's wrong? Blind obedience is worse than ignorance. If you can vote to take away someone else's rights, you're no friend of mine. Period. I can tolerate/sympathize with/understand a lot of things in a friend, but some things are just deal-breakers, and this is one of them.

ETA: This is a nice summation.
And this an even better one.

[identity profile] thinkdanni.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
couldn't agree more. I hate the political tactics they used, playing on fears with kids that are totally unfounded. Me and the kids went out this weekend campaigning against 8 :( A very sad day today.

and I can't believe it, but Arkansas passed a law banning gay people from adopting. I thought our country was moving forward :(

[identity profile] ounceofreason.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It passed?? Shit. I hadn't seen any word one way or the other this morning... dammit.

East Coast > West Coast

[identity profile] joy-disaster.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
oh my frickin... I can't believe this is even up for vote - CIVIL RIGHTS ARE NOT UP FOR VOTING! SInce when do rights get to go up for a majority vote? This is tyranny by majority which is what would have happened if Brown vs Board of Education had gone to vote - we'd still have segregation. I am sick and ashamed. The idea of a ballot measure to take away rights is sickening.

[identity profile] cad-red-ducati.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
maybe it's time for CA to fall into the ocean.

well no, but I agree with you 100% this is sad day to see this prop pass.

[identity profile] dreamalynn.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing which really makes me sickest about the whole Prop 8 thing is that the Yes campaign, with all of its lies, I mean blatant lies, and fearmongering, and attempts to divert the point away from "removing rights from people by fiat" to shrill "but the children" bullshit, was majority funded by members of a particular religion, from out of state. In essence, California's political system just became Utah's bitch.

I still don't understand it. I especially don't understand how Prop 8 passed in Los Angeles county. I mean, Hollywood? What? It's insanity.

[identity profile] lissie930.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.

Living in a state where marriage is legal for gays and straights, I have to say...I don't think my marriage has been impacted by my friends having the right to marry anymore than it's been impacted by the high divorce rate among heterosexuals.

[identity profile] nice-heart.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah... and here in Florida where we actually went BLUE!!! we also passed amendment 2, same bs.

[identity profile] geeki.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The fact that San Diego was in favor of prop 8 as a majority....
I just...

I need to move.
I cried this morning.

[identity profile] mix3d3m0ti0n5.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
you rock.

i think there was only one staunch non-obama person on my list. if she was the mccain party, I could see her being one of those that booed.

[identity profile] meadowrue.livejournal.com 2008-11-06 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
This is terrible. The Mormon church's involvement in this proposition has been disgusting enough to get me to finally write and get my name off of their records. I didn't really care before since I don't believe in anything they have to say about pretty much anything. But at this point I don't even want to be a blip on their statistics when they calculate their numbers.

[identity profile] allyphoe.livejournal.com 2008-11-06 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I think you're right.

I'm not going to repost this in my blog, because I do not want the drama. But I know someone who fits that description, and I think I'm going to go quietly trim.